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Brenda's avatar

Yes Jessica! ! I fully agree about the stop complaining. In our world women are seen as complaining, usually by men (because they feel threatened, are immature or narcissistic). Women often state the truth or facts which men in our culture don’t want to hear. I find the men who use this line often do not want to hear the truth which is man-code for “I don’t want to hear your statement as I might have to consider it better than mine” or “ I don’t want to hear you as I might have to consider your female opinion is right and I have to grow up”. With the loss of laws to protect women’s rights, removal of books from schools and the rise of patriarchal-based organized religion brainwashing people in our society, the movement is at an all time high to convince society all women and their thoughts and feelings should be ignored and marginalized and suppressed or even patronized so we will “be quiet….or shut up”. Our male dominated societies have always had a frail psyche afraid of growing women strength and the world has been build on suppressing it. Even organized religious based stories of creation were created to portray man as superior while women are the ones who caused the fall from grace. This is sad but true….a full thesis could be written on this patriarchal man view that has formed societies and cultures.

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Yes! after working as a veterinarian for 25 years, Yes! the expectations of men and woman are just plain different. If a man is gentle, talks softly to the pet or listens attentively and patiently to the owner, he gets the doctor of the year award! Well come on, that just comes naturally to woman, right? compassion, empathy, listening, caring, connecting, communicating, reassuring, noticing, and supporting aren't skills for woman, but just easy and natural expressions of their womanhood, right? or should be. are exepcted to be. It's the same BS with motherhood.

I could write a book on the monetization and institutionalization of compassion and care in our society and the damage it does to thoses called to help. Bottom line. If you are called to be useful to others in this world, prepare to be used. No really. Prepare for it and expect it and learn to protect yourself from it. We don't do this well. Not doing it well benefits too many. And yes, I am smiling and wearing a bikini while I write this.

Why the disprepancy? it's my opinion that woman are covertly and overtly messaged that their main social purpose if to create harmony, cohesion and comfort and to be pleasing (mostly to those with power), even if that means dressing in a bikini and heels around the boat , all while sporting a plastic (this makes you non threatening) smile, or laughing at an uncomfortable joke...right to not creating a scene or being disagreeable by moving the presidents/director/boss hand off your knee (or worse). Bottom line: don't create any social wrinkles, and iron out those created by others at all cost to self. Not doing so threatens your belonging to the group. Beloinging to the group is necessary to your survival...Political, social, physical, financial etc etc

Keep keeping it real Jessica. You are brave not thick skinned-- IMHO. Because eventually, good people leave toxic spaces. which may be why we are seeing a highter concentratin of toxicity in public spaces. good people are leaving. For their own healing and/or because their only stand is to no longer be complicit in their showing up. My preditcion. It will get a whole lot worse before it gets better. the good news, it's never been easier to see the dysfuntion. We've given it a megaphone. We just haven't figured out what to do about it...but we will.

thank you to all for sharing their thoughts.

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